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The Doctrine of Speaking in Tongues (babble), and of Deliverance (from physical disease), and a glimps into the theology of the HillSong Pentacostal church.

I apologize if I offend anyone.

As a researcher into Biblical theology, one of my strengths is to find resources which align them selves to scripture to rebuke false teachings.  One may ask, why should it matter if a particular Church has it’s own ways of doing things if the individual members of that church appear to produce good fruits. Yes God is sovereign but we must understand that God does not manifest himself in ways that are outside of Holy Scripture. To believe He can, would dissolve the authenticity and authority of His Word. For this reason we must be diligent and humble to His teachings. We have an ethical responsibility to expose errors in every Church, peacefully and for the sake of Christ. We are here today to take a glimpse into the HillSong Pentecostal Church, to see if it qualifies as a Cult of Christianity.

An introduction to some basic concepts of what is a Cult of Christianity:

  • A group of people polarized around someone’s interpretation of the Bible and is characterized by major deviations from orthodox Christianity about the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith” Dr Walter Martin
  • Claiming to have a new interpretive additional revelation, in contrary to Jude 1:3 “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” signifying the completion of God’s revelation.
  • A central teaching and/or practice that are claimed to be biblical but which are in fact un bilblical
  • Groups, organizations or churches whose ‘statement of faith’ or ‘statement of beliefs’ may sound orthodox, but who add aberrant (departing from an accepted standard.), heterodox (not conforming with accepted or orthodox standards or beliefs.) , sub-orthodox and/or heretical teachings to such an extend that the essential doctrines of the Christian faith are negatively affected.”

The Bible will never be superseded by miraculous manifestations. The truth must be studied and cherished. All experiences and doctrines must be tested by the Scriptures. Whatever contradicts the Bible is false.”

2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

No prophesy of God ever originated by the will of Man, it was curried along by the Holy Spirit. The Man of God is to be thoroughly equipped to perform every good work and to do that you must rightly interpret the word of Truth. You must be curried by the Holy Spirit consistently with Scripture and you must not deny Holy Scripture because of Emotion, because of your Feelings, or because of any subsequent material which you may think is important.” Dr Walter Martin.

1 Timothy 4

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Walter Martin, regarding 1 Timothy 4 “with one stroke of its pen under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the Apostle informs us that there is such a thing as the teaching of the daemons, that there is something that originates with Satan, that does represent its self as pure religion and as truth… the teaching of the daemons or of evil spirits will dominate the consummation of time

As the belated Dr Walter Martin stated:

It has been wisely observed that men are at liberty to reject Jesus Christ and the Bible as the Word of God; they are at liberty to oppose Him and to challenge the Word’s authenticity. But they are not at liberty to alter the essential message of the Scriptures

The SongHill website has posted the following set of beliefs:

Statement of Beliefs

  1. We believe that the Bible is God’s Word. It is accurate, authoritative and applicable to our everyday lives.

  2. We believe in one eternal God who is the Creator of all things. He exists in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. He is totally loving and completely holy.

  3. We believe that sin has separated each of us from God and His purpose for our lives.

  4. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ as both God and man is the only One who can reconcile us to God. He lived a sinless and exemplary life, died on the cross in our place, and rose again to prove His victory and empower us for life.

  5. We believe that in order to receive forgiveness and the ‘new birth’ we must repent of our sins, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and submit to His will for our lives.

  6. We believe that in order to live the holy and fruitful lives that God intends for us, we need to be baptised in water and be filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit enables us to use spiritual gifts, including speaking in tongues.

  7. We believe in the power and significance of the Church and the necessity of believers to meet regularly together for fellowship, prayer and the ‘breaking of bread’.

  8. We believe that God has individually equipped us so that we can successfully achieve His purpose for our lives which is to worship God, fulfil our role in the Church and serve the community in which we live.

  9. We believe that God wants to heal and transform us so that we can live healthy and blessed lives in order to help others more effectively.

  10. We believe that our eternal destination of either Heaven or hell is determined by our response to the Lord Jesus Christ.

  11. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is coming back again as He promised.

One must remember that the Bible is a collection of short stories written by different authors in different times with one collective mind and message. We must adopt the principles of Hermeneutics (the study of the principles and methods of interpreting the text of the Bible correctly) to be able to correctly interpret the Bible.We will be examining points 6 and 9.


The doctrine on Tongues has been a universally misunderstood gift of the Spirit. When we consider the statement made by the HillSong beliefs, it is explicitly stated “The Holy Spirit enables us to use spiritual gifts, including speaking in tongues.“. Under the maxim of laws, The inclusion of onoe is the exclusion of another. This literally means that tongues is a mandated requirement as proof that the Holy Spirit is in you.

I must call upon Scripture alone to be able to deal with these statements and the principles of hermeneutics to gain a correct interpretation.

Let us first look at the Gifts of the Holy Spirit

Spiritual Gifts Bestowed

1 Corinthians 12

1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

For the moment we will concentrate on the gift of tongues.

Following Dr Walter Martin’s teaching in Hermeneutics, we gain the following in site:

A great many of the problems that people face is that they are unable to detect erroneous interpretations and what we’re trying to do in our study of “how to interpret the Bible” is to show you some of the pitfalls you can get into and how to avoid them. One of the basic principles of Biblical interpretations, at the first occurrence of any phenomena, is the basis for interpreting the subsequent appearances of the same phenomena. So in the book of Acts 2 when the Holy Spirit came upon the Church, the scripture says “they were filled with the Holy Spirit and they spoke with Tongues.”, if you study the word Tongue it is the Greek word DIALECTICS or DIALECT (Language). So the first appearance of Tongues, in Acts 2, were in languages, not babbling. The people who were there heard the wonderful works of God in their own dialect. So the first appearance of Tongues, teaches you, that genuine tongues are dialect. It may not be a known dialect known to mankind now, it may be a dialect long lost in history. It may be indeed something we can check today. But it will never be babble, it will always be language. That’s the first appearance of tongues and all appearance of tongues afterwards are to be interpreted in the context of language. The three functions of tongues are well known; one is a sign to the unbeliever, the other is a pray language from the believer to the Lord (1 Corinthians 14), the third is a dialect message to the Church in which it must be interpreted in order to be accepted. So it’s one gift, dialect (language) and then three functions.” Walter Martin CD 2 Hermeneutics.

Acts 2

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God

We can be assured by reading Acts 2 that the tongues were in “his own language”, a mother tongue, not an incoherent babble.

Prof Walter Veith stated “People are looking for a new Religion, and Vatican 2 defined what that religion should be. Vatican 2 said there must be acclamation, there must be response, there must be popular music, there must be movement, there must be emotion.. and the more the merrier. That is called the Liturgy, and Roman Catholicism calls the Liturgy the Holy Liturgy. It could be every unclean and detestable bird pretending to be the Holy Spirit. But the (true) Holy Spirit convicts of sin and righteousness and judgement, brings you into obedience with God’s commandants. …. It all started with Pentecostalism.

The Toronto experience was a the powerful movement which pushed the globalization of speaking in babble within the Church claiming this was a Biblical manifestation of the Holy Spirit . Let us take a glimpse into the theology of Pentecostal movement from This is a snippet into the background theology of what is known as the Christian Cult Pentecostal Church today.

Kenneth Copeland: To Another Level

Kenneth Hagin is the mentor of Kenneth Copeland. As always in false doctrines, the ideas continue in a downward spiral. Copeland takes this idea to a greater extreme. Here are his words. Copeland said,

‘The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, ‘Son, realize this. ‘ Now, follow me in this. Don’t let your tradition (Biblical Scripture) trip you up. He said, ‘Think this way. A twice born man whipped Satan in his own domain … “

Let us stop right here, for Copeland has just stated a very important occult term. He said that the “Spirit of God” had told him that a “twice born” man had whipped Satan in his own domain! This term, “twice born” is a critically important Masonic term, one that is used interchangeably with the Biblical term, “Born Again”. Listen to Masonic author, Manly P. Hall, explain:

“All symbols have their origin in something tangible, and the Phoenix is one sign of the secret orders of the ancient world, and of the initiate of those orders, for it was common to refer to one who had been accepted into the temples as a man twice-born, or re-born. Wisdom confers a new life, and those who become wise are born again .” [Manly P. Hall, The Secret Destiny of America , 1958, p. 176-77]

Is it purely accidental that Rev. Kenneth Copeland used a secret Masonic term, “twice-born”? Rumors abound that Copeland is a 33° Mason, and using this term only tends to make one want to believe the reports. Let us now go back to this quote from Copeland as he continues to tell his audience the new revelation — the new doctrine — the “Spirit of God” was giving him.

“… I threw my Bible and I said, ‘What! He said, ‘A born-again defeated Satan. The first born of many brethren defeated him.’ He said, You are the very image and the very copy of that one. .I said, Goodness, gracious sakes alive!’ And it just began, I began to see what had gone on in there. And I said Well, now, you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean that I could have done the same thing. He said, Oh, yeah, if you’d known and had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you are a reborn man, too. He said, ‘The same power that I used to raise Him from the dead, I used to raise you from your death in trespasses and sin.’ He said, ‘I had to have that copy of that pattern to establish judgment on Satan, so that I could recreate a child, and a family, and a whole new race of mankind. And He said, You are in His likeness. “

This idea of the “Born Again Jesus” serves to reveal what lies at the heart of this teaching. They are not dealing with men and women saved by the Blood, but with the cultic idea of creating a superior race of godlike humans. Note Copeland’s words that came to him by revelation from this type of spirit.

Further, note that this “Spirit of God” elevates Copeland greatly, telling him that ” if you’d known and had the knowledge of the Word of God that He [Jesus] did, you could have done the same thing”. What “thing” are they speaking of? They are talking about a “Twice Born” Jesus being able to defeat Satan in his own domain! Thus, Copeland could have defeated Satan in his own domain — in Hell — because he was “Twice Born” also! When a “spirit” tells a mere mortal that he could have defeated Satan in Hell and redeemed mankind, that is pure, unadulterated heresy!

1 Corinthian 13

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Tongues to be interpreted in the light of Acts 2 (Prof Walter Veith, Charisma of the Spirit)

  • Not for self
  • Sign for unbelievers
  • Were understood
  • Led to re-birth
  • Confirmed by witnesses
  • Consequence of Spirit
  • Not the only sign

Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand. These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.” The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices, Author: Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD

Let us study 1 Corinthians to understand this commonly misunderstood scripture. The book of Corinthians was an exchange of letters to and from Paul to the Corinthians.When dealing with the gifts of Tongues, I believe 1 Corinthians 14 requires special attention. One must realize 1 Corinthians is a book of Dictum’s (a short statement that expresses a general principle) from the Corinthians, with Paul rebuking each point (with the qualifier “But”), as to gain a better understanding of the errors the Corinthians were partaking in.

 Prophecy and Tongues

1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

Paul declares the desire to prophesy (preach) the gospel is the priority, before the desire of gifts.

2For he that speaketh in an tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

The verse above is identified as a dictum.

3But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification (the moral or intellectual instruction or improvement of someone), and exhortation (an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something. ), and comfort.

The verse above is Paul’s rebuke, with the correct encouragement unto men, but them selves.

4He that speaketh in an tongue edifieth himself;

The verse above is identified as a dictum.

4. but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

The verse above is Paul’s rebuke, which he teaches the Church requires the edification first.

5I would that ye all spake with tongues,

This Dictum states the incorrect theology that all should speak in tongues.

5. but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Paul does not deny this is a gift of the Holy Spirit but instructs once again on preaching being the greater priority, with the exception (which is validated as one of the gifts, the gift of interpretation) to the Church.

6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? ..12Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. 13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret

Paul here is explaining that speaking with tongues must come from God for a profit to the Church.

14For if I pray in an tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

The Corinthians were praying in a tongue with no true understanding Paul rebukes this claim below.

15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? 17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. 18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. 20Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. 21In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. 22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


  • When the gift of tongues was given on the day of Pentecost every person was able to understand in their own real mother language
  • Hermeneutic law of interpretation requires that every other manifestation of tongues in the Bible there after Acts 2, and even today must be in the light of speaking in known languages. There cannot be any exception.
  • Worship is not to be mindless, thus there is no orderly outward expression of worship to babbling.
  • There must be a usefulness to the whole body of Christ
  • It is a sign to them that do not believe.
  • Speaking in Tongues is to preach the Gospel, not for self satisfaction.
  • God is sovereign to the gifts for His own Will
  • There is unity in the gifts, and diversity
  • The manifestation of any gift is not a mandate as evidence of salvation
  • Any manifestation or experience, regardless how glorious it may feel to the individual, no matter how inspiring, now matter how emotional it can make you feel, comes from the evil one if it fails against the Scriptures.
  • It would appear the phenomena of babble language has its origin in Masonic, Luciferian and Babylonian practices



The Doctrine of Deliverance we wish to examine is in the context of point 9 deals with the promise of physical healing or other wise known as “healing in the atonement” from physical diseases.

The following two articles are very details and I believe to be the important snippets from articles are very adequate in dealing with the issue of physical healing of the Christian.

Article 1

 It seems to us that one who needs to conceive of Jesus bearing all the cancer and leprosy in the world in order to understand the extent of His agony has an inadequate appreciation of the infinite weight and horror that was involved in Christ’s taking upon Himself the sins of the world. The concept of a dual work on the cross, Christ’s bearing our sins and sickness, is a serious misapplication of Scripture. Sickness is only one of the many ultimate effects of man’s sin. Jesus took the cause of all of our sufferings, sin, upon Himself at the cross in order to rid us ultimately of all of its effects. It is illogical to affirm that for any or all of the effects to be abolished it would be necessary for Him to bear any one of the effects (such as sickness) along with the cause.

By dealing with the cause (sin) He sufficiently dealt with all of its effects. Jesus took care of the problem of sickness by bearing our sins on the tree. It was not necessary for Him to bear our sicknesses for us to be healed.

We would never dispute that we are healed by Jesus’ stripes. But is the world “heal” (Hebrew “rapah”) referring specifically to physical healing? A study of its usage in the Old Testament reveals that quite often it is not used to connote physical healing at all. In many cases it was used to imply spiritual healing (e.g.: Jeremiah 3:22 — “Return, O faithless ones, I will heal (rapah) your faithlessness”, and Psalm 107:20 — “He sent His Word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions”).

Healing is therefore a benefit of the atonement, never an irrevocable gift.

And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one hope for what he sees?” (verse 23, 24). Here Paul explains in very clear terms that the physical aspect of our redemption (glorification of our bodies, Philippians 3:21) is our great hope; something in the future that has not taken place yet. Thus, while Christ did buy perfect health for us at the cross by dying for our sins, it will not go into effect until the glorification of our bodies, and cannot be claimed now.

God has not ordained that sickness be totally removed from our experience yet, but it is a part of our hope that one day it permanently will: “And He shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there shall no longer be any death; there shall be no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away” (Revelation 21:4). Those who teach that it is always God’s will to heal also advocate the doctrine that it is always God’s will for us to be prosperous; and little wonder, for the same sentiment is behind both. It is a sentiment that is not patient to wait for the day described in Revelation 21:4 above, that is unwilling to face the full extent of the cross that God has called us to during the brief span of our days here. It cannot quite accept the fact that God has called us to many sufferings for a season.

It is absurd and without basis to suppose that the same God Who ordained that we suffer for a time in these degenerating, death bound bodies would at the same time ordain that we have perfect health. It would seem obvious that if God wanted us to have perfect health now He’d give us the proper mode to express it; a glorified, immortal body.

Our key point of difference with Kenneth Hagin, Ken Copeland, Fred Price, and the others in this “guaranteed healing” movement, is that we are convinced from our study of Scripture that healing is not simply a mechanical process of the believer repenting (if necessary), believing, and receiving, which if we’re not healed makes it undoubtedly our responsibility. There’s also an element of the sovereignty of God in all this. As John says: “If we ask anything according to His will, He hears us” (I John 5:4). It is not always God’s will to heal us because at times He has a positive purpose in affliction. God allowed affliction to come upon Job for the purpose of proving the genuineness of Job’s commitment to Him (Job 1:6 – 2:10)

For any who still doubts that the Lord had a hand in Job’s afflictions, the issue should be made clear by Job 42:11, where the inspired author (not Satan, nor an erring human) says concerning Job: “And they consoled him and comforted him for all the evil that the LORD had brought on him.” Thus we see that for a constructive purpose God brought or permitted physical affliction to come upon Job.

Paul learned to be content with this abiding affliction, for the Lord taught him that at the very moment that he was weakest in himself, the power of the Lord would be most evident through him, bringing glory to God rather than Paul (verses 9, 10). This lesson desperately needs to be learned by many who are being influenced by the false unlimited healing/prosperity doctrines today.

*Epaphroditus, too, was deathly sick in the presence of Paul and Paul implies no expectation of his healing, but rather states that his recovery was due to the mercy (not obligation) of God (Phil., 2:25–27).

One very real problem is that the emphasis that is placed upon Christ bearing our diseases at Calvary undermines the biblical emphasis upon Christ bearing our sins. Whereas the preaching that we read in the New Testament is always centered around Christ’s death or our sins and resurrection for our justification (Romans 4:25), one finds that the preaching, and even the casual conversation of this current movement is dominated by the subject of bodily healing. Followers of the movement display practically an obsession with the topics of healing and “confession,” as though these subjects were the gospel and there’s little else in the Bible worthy of much discussion. Even if these doctrines were Biblical many who hold them would be guilty of being extremely unbalanced, not giving enough attention to many important aspects of Christian faith and living.

Another unfortunate result of the preaching of these doctrines is that people lose their victory in Christ, and become shaken in their faith, because someone gave them a “biblical” formula for success, and it didn’t work. Because people are always looking for a quick and easy way out of their problems, rather than the slow and sometimes painful process of sanctification by the Holy Spirit, new “principles” or “methods” for victory or healing always find their takers. Such movements begin when certain people, usually untrained in Scripture, discover methods of handling their own problems which seem to work for them, search through the Scriptures finding “proof texts” for their own theories, and proceed to build a doctrine around them. Because the doctrines are not fully biblical, and because they are incapable of taking into consideration the vast differences between personalities, and the complex capture of human problems, in the long run they do not work for the majority of the people who try them. The only ones who really have any “success” with the methods are those whose personalities and problems are very much like those who developed the methods. For many of the rest there is great disillusionment, because they do not have the discernment to recognize that it was human methodology, and not the Bible, which failed. In the words of Dr. Martin: “We see then, the utter folly of trying to give a simple solution to so complex a problem as that of suffering the disease.”

After being forced to go to this extent to prove that it is not always God’s will to heal, we do want to close on the positive note that we do believe that divine healing is for today. We see no Scriptural basis to doubt that we can expect to see healing take place here and now. Healing should be a regular part of the life of all churches (James 5:14—16). We also believe that faith plays an important part in receiving healing, and that the Church has much to learn about faith, and how to more effectively receive it for healing. We feel that many who saw this need embraced the “healing in the atonement” doctrine because it seemed to offer a more solid basis for faith. Unfortunately, however, this basis is not the Scriptural basis, and therefore it has created more problems than was hoped it would solve.

If we have no guarantee that it is always God’s will to heal, how then can we pray in faith for healing? In the same way that we pray in faith for other things which Scripture does not specifically promise us. We may pray that the Lord would give us a job at a certain company, but we cannot know for sure if it’s His will that we work there unless He personally assures us of it through His Spirit. Faith is a supernatural gift (Ephesians 2:8); it begins with God. Thus when it is God’s will for a healing (which I believe it often would be), if we are open and receptive to Him, a supernatural assurance from Him will come upon us. The Body of Christ needs to learn to be more receptive and responsive to the prompting of the Holy Spirit working in our faith, so that through a sovereign act of God’s healing will multiply in the land, and the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be glorified. — Elliot Miller (© CRI, 1979)

Article 2


No demons need to be cast out of a born again, blood of Jesus purchased and heaven-bound Christian. Biblical deliverance and healing empowers you to walk with and abide in Christ, your personal Lord and Savior. It does not empower a deliverance ministry or deliverance church to continue having you under some constant dose of “deliverance medication.”

There is no binding and loosing of demons involved, no special anointing oil, no laying on of hands, no powerful deliverance prayers and so on. And no special emotions either to feel the deliverance experience. It is simple a simple act of faith and the will to apply required biblical deliverance principles. God’s angels then go ahead to overcome the demonic forces in the spirit realm that before had legal entry once the truth comes and is applied.

Through such an intimate connection with him we’re able to receive and understand truths that others are blind to. He’s able to remove the veil or covering of ignorance that blinds us from many matters that create hard to solve problems. This is liberating. It is true deliverance.

Please note that the freedom that comes with walking in truth does not imply having everything the way we desire or pray. It is having the right understanding to life and whatever comes our way. It is knowing how to navigate through trials of life, being made better instead of bitter through them.

It is understanding the sovereignty, power and love of God rather than being preoccupied with people, evil spirits or circumstances in determining the course of our lives. It is being empowered to walk with God in such an intimate way that he becomes our focus, not people or circumstances, and certainly not Satan.

Another important question we must ask, can the Devil heal, as the great deceiver?

2 Thessalonians 2

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness

Matthew 24:24

There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible. they shall deceive the very elect

It appears God is teaching that he allows the evil one to deceive even the elect, even by the positive reaction of physical healing.

Satan’s most effective agents in deception are those who profess to honor God’s cause and seem like dedicated Christians, some of whom exhibit gifts of apparent power to heal. Their service is often connected with the accumulation of great wealth and indulgence in luxurious living. (See 2 Cor. 11:13-15; 2 Pet. 2:1-3, 13-20. cp. 1 Cor. 3:16-18.) “


  • The death on the Cross bore the sins of Man first and foremost
  • There is no direct reference to any promise of Physical Healing the to entire Church
  • The Spiritual healing supersedes the need for all his Children to have the promise to be healed physically.
  • The Church shall groan for the return of the Lord
  • We have the assured hope for a resurrection of the physical body into a glorified spiritual body.
  • Suffering plays an important role in our relationship with Christ, Job being our example of a Man who was afflicted by God.
  • Paul did not have any power to heal Epaphriditus
  • There is an expectation that God’s Will may heal to draw someone closer to Him, and as a sign to unbelievers as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
  • God’s Will to physically heal is sovereign.
  • Our pray for healing is an re-acknowledgment that we have surrendered all and rely on God’s grace for everything.
  • There may be a cause of lack in Faith to believe that both the Holy Spirit and a daemon can occupy a Christian human vessel at the same time. “If God is for us, who can be against us?”
  • There is only one Spirit, we are all partakers of the same bread, there can only be one true deliverance.
  • God is permissive to allow false signs and wonders to those who do not seek Him diligently.

The issue of wealth creation which is promoted in the SongHill Pentecostal church is another issue for debate, but to briefly reiterate, it is very clear in scriptural teachings that we are commanded in Matthew 13:44-46)19″Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” The message to the Church in Smyrna, from Matthew Henry’s Commentary states “..he must be rich in the deepest poverty, honourable amidst the lowest abasement, and happy under the heaviest tribulation, ..and when God’s people are made poor as to this life, for the sake of Christ and a good conscience, he makes all up to them in spiritual riches.

Before we conclude, I would like to take this opportunity to say that we not condemning Christians, we are not doubting their love for the Lord, we are only wanting to show that is it possible for someone who is sincere to be misled by false teachers and false manifestations.

Conclusion to the debate:

  • Hermeneutics is an absolute requirement for interpreting the Holy Scripture
  • Any manifestation, regardless of the human experience, must be in alignment with Holy Scripture.
  • Speaking in incoherent babble for the purpose so self satisfaction or as evidence of salvation is not Biblical.
  • Speaking in incoherent babble has its theological and historical roots in Roman Catholic liturgy and Babylonian practices.
  • The promise of deliverance from physical health only applies to the resurrection, when we will be transformed into glorified spiritual bodies
  • It is God’s sovereign decision as to who may be healed and who will suffer for His Will alone.
  • The SongHill Pentecostal movement organization is a super organized global business
  • It is the author’s humble opinion that the SongHill Pentecostal church is a Cult of Christianity.
  •  The Church, being the body of Christ, consisting of individuals is a church which is groaning and preaching the doctrine of repentance and truly edifying the Church to glorify the Lord by obeying the scriptures.






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